Content-length: 93277 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Atavachron Digest 9/92
Date:         Wed, 02 Sep 92 10:30:09 EDT
From:         atavachron@morekypr
Subject:      Atavachron Digest #21
To:           Jeff Preston 

           Atavachron Digest - The Allan Holdsworth Discussion List
                              Volume 2, Number 21

                         Wednesday September 2nd, 1992

                                TODAY'S TOPICS:
                                ==============
                           Re: Atavachron Digest #20
                               Re:  Charts, etc.
                              Road Games mini lp
                          Looking Glass transcription
                    Survey ending date / new file available

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 8:27:16 PDT
From: Kyle Wohlmut 
Subject: Re: Atavachron Digest #20

Re: Uncommon Chord

I too own the book, and I wrote to the publisher right after I got it, and
was told the same thing.  Aaaaw... not that I would have understood them
anyway... :-) But I was able to 'reconstruct' them well enough from the heads
to perform the tunes I wanted to live.  Yes, I did play a couple of songs
from the book at gigs-- my favourite was doing 'Tokyo Dream' with guitar,
Stick, and drums!  But I digress... anyway I would be totally for seeing more
Holdsworth charts becoming available... maybe even a limited distribution to
members of this mailing list? (Or would that be too much to ask for? :-)

I also echo the lament of no West Coast dates for the Holdsworth show.  But
he did come through here earlier this year (and despite his three shows in my
range, I missed them all!  How did he manage to schedule all his gigs on
nights that I had gigs myself?), so maybe he's just letting everybody else
get their licks in (except the Canadians, I guess).  He hasn't been touring
all that time, has he?

/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/
                       /
/'''   Kyle Wohlmut    -  'Heute back ich, morgen brau ich, und
c-OO                   /   uebermorgen hol ich mir der Koenigin ihr
   \   Rocking Pig     -   Kind.  Ach, wie gut dass niemand weiss,
  -     Enterprises    /   dass ich kyle@csli.stanford.EDU heiss.'
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P.S. Interesting survey, I'll get back to that a bit later.  Just what is
going to be done with all this information?

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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 03:07:51 CDT
From: tmadson@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Todd Madson)
Subject: Re:  Charts, etc.

What would be great is if someone could expand on "Reaching for the
Uncommon Chord" and include all of his newer material.  The demand
for such an item would certainly be specialized, but would be great
for all of us hardcore Holdsworth fanatics.  The chord charts that
were missing certainly would have been nice to include, yet I'm not
sure if I've known anyone who actually had them.

 Thanks for the survey.  I'll edit and respond accordingly.

UUCP: {amdahl!bungia, crash}!orbit!pnet51!tmadson
ARPA: crash!orbit!pnet51!tmadson@nosc.mil
INET: tmadson@pnet51.orb.mn.org

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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 11:00:28 PDT
From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Subject: Road Games mini lp

I was browsing used lps yesterday and came across a copy of Allan's Road Games.
I already have it, but I grabbed it becasue I figured someone out there could
use a copy of this since it looks unlikely it'll make it to cd, or at least
in the near future.

I'm not sure if I'll sell this copy or my promo copy - but both are in good
to excellent condition. I suspect my cost for the record and shipping it would
come to about $8 total. So if anyone out there wants this to fill a gap in
your collection please let me know. If there's a huge demand I suppose it'll
go to the highest offer I get, though I don't really care if I make any money
off this or sell it at my cost. I just want it to go to someone who will
appreciate it.

 - malcolm@wrs.com

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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 13:54:54 PDT
From: freedman@mprgate.mpr.ca (Elliot Freedman)
Subject: Looking Glass transcription


=======================================================================
========================== LOOKING GLASS ==============================
========================= Allan Holdsworth ============================
=======================================================================

The structure of the tune is:

        Head1
        Ending1Head1
        Head1
        Ending2Head1
        Head2
        Ending1Head2

        ThatBeautifulTheme1
        Linkage
        Head2
        Ending1Head2

        SoloSection             (last time exit at the Ab#11...)
        ThatBeautifulTheme2     (...and take this to finish solo)
        Linkage

        Ending1Head2
        Head1
        Ending1Head1
        Head1
        Ending2Head1


In terms of notation I've written the chordal phrases in TAB;
the top line being the high E string in a standard tuning scheme.
The solo section is given in terms of harmonies.  I'd like to
share ideas with others about voicings in the solo section.

Enjoy!

Elliot E. Freedman (freedman@mprgate.mpr.ca)

=======================================================================
========================== LOOKING GLASS ==============================
========================= Allan Holdsworth ============================
=======================================================================


============================
Head1
============================


12    10         14      12      11 9      9       10      9  9   9
8     7          x       9       7  6      7       8       7  6   x
x     x          14      x       x  x      x       x       x  x   11
12    10         x       11      9  8      9       9       9  8   x
x     x          14      x       x  x      x       x       x  x   x
x     x          x       x       x  x      x       x       x  x   11


14       12        9    9    9      9  9    9         9    7     12
x        x         x    x    x      x  x    x         x    x     x
16       x     13  13   14   15     14 13   12        11   9     14
x        x         x    x    x      x  x    x         x    x     x
x        x         x    x    x      x  x    x         x    x     14
16       14        13   14   15     14 13   12        11   9     x


============================
Ending1Head1
============================

17      15      14      12    10
x       x       x       x     x
x   17  14      x   14  14    12
13      16      12      11    9
x       x       x       x     x
x       x       x       x     x



============================
Ending2Head1 (Ending1Head1 transposed up a major 2nd, typical AH!)
============================

19      17      16      14    12
x       x       x       x     x
x   19  16      x   16  16    14
15      18      14      13    11
x       x       x       x     x
x       x       x       x     x



============================
ThatBeautifulTheme1
============================


9       7       4       7          x            15        14   12
(10)    x    10 x    5  4          x    8       x         x    x
x       (9)     x       x          11           x    16   14   13
x       x       x       4          12           x         x    x
10      9       5       7          x            x         14   14
x       x       x       x          8            17        x    x


============================
Linkage
============================

7         10        x
x     8   x     10  x    8
x         11        11
x         x         12
8         10        x
x         x         8


============================
Head2 (Head1 tranposed down a perfect 4th, typical AH!)
============================

7     5          9      7      6  4      4       5      4  4   5
3     2          x      2      2  1      2       3      2  1   x
x     x          9      x      x  x      x       x      x  x   6
7     5          x      6      3  3      4       4      4  3   x
x     x          9      x      x  x      x       x      x  x   x
x     x          x      x      x  x      x       x      x  x   6


9       7        4   4    4      4  4    4         4    2     7
x       x        x   x    x      x  x    x         x    x     x
11      x     8  8   9   10      9  8    7         6    4     9
x       x        x   x    x      x  x    x         x    x     x
x       x        x   x    x      x  x    x         x    x     9
11      9        8   9   10      9  8    7         6    4     x


============================
Ending2Head2 (actuall Ending2Head1 transposed down a perfect 4th, ...!)
============================

14      12      11     9    7
x       x       x      x    x
x   14  11      x   11 11   9
10      13      9      8    6
x       x       x      x    x
x       x       x      x    x

============================
Ending1Head2 (actuall Ending1Head1 transposed down a perfect 4th, ...!)
============================

12      10      9      7    5
x       x       x      x    x
x   12  9       x   9  9    7
8       11      7      6    4
x       x       x      x    x
x       x       x      x    x



============================
SoloSection
        (a bare bones description,
        add your own embellishments)
============================


G/A-----G/A     A/G-----A/G             (2, 2 bars)


Bm9     Abm9    E/F#----E/F#            (1, 1, 2 bars)


Ebmin13 D6dim7  G/A-----G/A             (1, 1, 2 bars)


G/A-----G/A     A/G-----A/G             (2, 2 bars)


Abmin9  Ebmin9  Dbmin11 Cmaj#11         (1, 1, 1, 1 bar)
                                        (last time in solo go to
                                        Linkage2 following Cmaj#11)

Ab#11   Gmin11  Eb#11   Dmin11          (1, 1, 1, 1 bar)
                                        (that beautiful theme lies
                                        in these chords)

C#maj6  A#min11 F-------F               (1, 1, 2 bars)


C#/F#   D#/G#   C#maj6                  (1, 1, 1 bar)
                                        (back to beginning of
                                        SoloSection)


============================
ThatBeautifulTheme2
============================

10      9       4       7          x            15        14   12
(11)    x    12 x    5  4          x    8       x         x    x
x       (11)     x       x          11           x    16   14   13
x       x       x       4          12           x         x    x
11      11      5       7          x            x         14   14
x       x       x       x          8            17        x    x


=======================================================================
=======================================================================
=======================================================================
=======================================================================

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Date:         Wed, 02 Sep 92 02:36:04 EDT
From:         PRESTON@morekypr.bitnet
Subject:      Survey ending date / new file available


  The response has been rather good so far on the survey: about 23
percent of the subscribers have responded so far. Not bad for a week's
work, folks.  :)  I think I'll go ahead and make next Wednesday the
cutoff date for survey responses, so if you're playing along at home,
have those surveys sent in by 11:59 p.m. EDT on Wednesday September
9th, please. Thanks to all who have sent in so far... I think we're
all in for some surprising results!

  On another topic, totally unrelated to the survey (mostly): I've
had some subscribers express interest in making the subscriber list
public. I hesitated on the grounds that some people just like to read
the list and would prefer not to be contacted by other list members.
As a compromise, I will make available a file of the addresses of
people who have posted to Atavachron. Since archives are available,
this is nothing that anyone else could not extract for themselves,
so I do not think anyone should have a problem with this, but I'd be
willing to hear opposing viewpoints.

  Lastly, I promise not to type another character about anything
on this list until I have at least one of the two reviews I'm working
on finished!  ;)

  Jeff Preston

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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 92 23:57:34 EDT
From:         atavachron@morekypr
Subject:      Atavachron Digest #22
To:           Jeff Preston 

           Atavachron Digest - The Allan Holdsworth Discussion List
                              Volume 2, Number 22

                         Thursday September 10th, 1992

                                TODAY'S TOPICS:
                                ==============
                          Babys First Post... aaaah!
                            Satriani on Holdsworth
        The results of the entirely optional Atavachron Reader's Survey

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Date:       Fri, 4 Sep 92 12:04:40 BST
From:       David_Valentine-Hagart@vme.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk
Subject:    Babys First Post... aaaah!

  Well, Ive been a silent member of this list for a while now and I think it's
  about time I came clean about my shameless addiction to a certain guitarist.

  I first saw Allan while I was still at school !! The school had it's own
  BIG theatre and put on a Jazz gig double bill with Allan paired with
  the George Chisolm (the trombone player) band, shit what an unholy alliance
  that was ! The band consisted of AH - guitar, G Husband - drums,Paul
  Williams - vocals, and an unknown Bassist (had a lovely musicman bass!)
  This was about the time the I.O.U album came out. Allan had a Fender Strat,
  two Hartly Thompson amps and an assortment of decidedly home made pedals
  and widgets twix guitar and amps. Needless to say my jaw spent most of the
  gig on the floor. I met Allan after the gig and tried, unsucsessfully, to
  grill him about his gear/musical raison d'etre. George Chisolm didn't
  endear himself by practically apologising to the audience for Allans music
  and generally acting like a smug twat/Hey boys and girls Im a Trad Jazz
  Ledgend  ..bleeachh !

  The second and *ONLY OTHER TIME* I have seen Allan live was two years ago
  on his tiny UK (Search for the Holy Ale) Tour. The gig was at a music pub,
  in my home town of Nottingham, called The Old Angel. Allan had the "Secrets
  band" with Gary Husband on drums. The place was totally packed and I mean
  breathing by rota packed as many UK fans from elsewhere were there too
  (having practically followed the tour round England !) Needless to say a very
  good time was had by all, and Allan even said HE was pleased with his playing
  /sound that night !! Seeing him play the synthaxe was quite something too.
  The gig was also the last gig at that pub before it was closed permamently
  (the next day) so there's a bit of nostalgia too. Needless to say I went
  a bit over the top on the tour merchandise :->> Allan also played quite a lot
  of tunes from IOU that night and when I asked "why no recent stuff" he said
  he thought the IOU tunes would be more familiar to the UK audience, just
  shows how little info he has about the UK side of things.

  As a typical ?? UK A.H fan I do feel pretty well starved of material/info/
  gigs (especially those) from his Allan-ness so this list is a *great*
  resource for me and the other UK fans on the list ( come on you lot, POST
  so we can exchange info !!).

  There you go Jeff.. anonymity blown to sh**. and thank you.

                          ..David Valentine-Hagart..

................................................................................
...
  _____   __               .       CCZDVH         .   My Guitar wonders why
 /     \_/ /           __  .   @uk.ac.nott.vme    .    Its not easy to fly
| []| | LLLLLLLLLLLLLL|__| .   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^   .    Exept if your name
 \_\___/\_\                .  I can't play this!  .  Ends in Holdsworth or Vai !
......\.........................................................................
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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 12:29:59 -0400
From: rardin%bad.dnet@auriga
Subject: Satriani on Holdsworth

The most recent issue of Musician had a section entitled "Guitarists Pick
the Lead They Love  Favorite Solo".  Hendrix took the cake for most
mentions (surprise, surprise), but Holdsworth was mentioned by one of those
asked to name their favorite solo:

Joe Satriani said, "Ohh, that's almost impossible.  Maybe the backwards solo
from 'Are you Experienced?'  There's a bunch I hold up as the coolest:
'Voodoo Chile (Slight Return),' and if you had to pry me off of Hendrix,
'Since I've Been Loving You' by Jimmy Page, 'Red Alert' by Allan Holdsworth,
and 'Where Were You' by Jeff Beck.  That's more mindblowing as time goes by.
But 'Red Alert'--man!  God, it just builds and builds, it always sets my heart
beating way to fast. [laughs]  What a great solo." (Musician, September 1992,
p. 82)

-Lynn

< R. Lynn Rardin (rardin@auriga.rose.brandeis.edu)  >
< Rosenstiel Basic Medical Sciences Research Center >
< Brandeis University, Waltham, MA 02254-9110       >

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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 92 23:48:12 EDT
From:         PRESTON@morekypr.bitnet
Subject:      The results of the entirely optional Atavachron Reader's Survey


  I've spent a non-trivial amount of my time these last few days
tabulating totals and sharpening pencils and generally making a mess
out of my desk with the survey results. Yes, the time has come to
play the numbers game here on Atavachron, and hopefully to gain some
insight into the opinions of Joe Subscriber.
  Twenty-five of you decided to take part in the survey (27.78% of the
total subscribership). Not surprisingly, most of the respondents had
posted to the list in the past, but there were a few who "came out of
the woodwork" to add their opinions to the sum. So... just what do we
listen to in addition to Holdsworth?  The average respondent's collection
looks something like this:

  29%  Jazz
  18%  Progressive Rock/Art Rock
  14%  Heavy Metal
  13%  Classic Rock ('50s -'70s)
  11%  Classical/Orchestral
   4%  Alternative/College Radio
   3%  Blues
   3%  Folk
   3%  Popular/Top 40
   2%  "other stuff too fractional to get into here"  :)

  As for the latest live performance attended, two people mentioned Eric
Clapton as the last show they saw. Also mentioned were Yes, Ted Nugent,
Emerson, Lake and Palmer, Sonny Rollins, Mary Black & Family, Jimmy Carl
Black & The Grandmothers, Tribal Tech, Pantera, Henry Kaiser & Friends,
Bela Fleck & The Flecktones, Steve Morse Band, Amy Grant, Pat Metheny,
Fairport Convention, A.J. Croce, Bob Dylan, Robben Ford, and even Allan
Holdsworth (wow!).  :)  Also mentioned were several local bands and
orchestras.

  The latest albums bought?  Well, a lot of people misunderstood the
copyright date question, so that threw a bit of a skew into the readings,
but no matter. The latest release from the Dixie Dregs, _Bring 'Em Back
Alive_ topped the list with 3 mentions, followed by Steve Hackett's
_Time Lapse_ with 2 mentions. Among the others reported were albums by
Tori Amos, Brand X, Buggles, Charles Ives, Lester Bowie, Brave Combo,
Pantera, Steve Morse, Andrea Marcelli, Pat Metheny, Led Zeppelin, Ice T,
Kevin Eubanks, Cozy Powell, Lynch Mob, Toots Theilmans, and several
compilation works and soundtracks. Oh yes -- again, there were a few
Allan Holdsworth albums listed in this catagory.

  I decided that listing the average price for CDs/cassettes/etc. would
be a bit ridiculous, especially considering that two-thirds of us live in
the U.S., and the other third lives elsewhere, which would involve all
sorts of currency conversions and other mathematical gymnastics in order
to come up with a meaningful number. So, forget I asked that, okay?  ;)
Besides, it'd probably be pretty rude to remind everyone that the U.S.
has the best prices on CDs... oops!  Hey, I'm doing my part by trying to
hook up these folks with CDs.  ;)

  Where do we hear about new releases and concerts?  The top honors
for information exchange, according to the respondents is almost a dead
tie between the network newsgroups/lists, magazines and word-of-mouth.
Lowest on just about everyone's list was MTV/VH-1/MuchMusic. Those within
the U.S. generally rated the newsgroups highly, while those outside the
U.S. tended to get better information from newspapers, magazines and
radio (surprisingly few U.S. subscribers even listed radio as a source of
information -- a sad commentary on the state of American radio, I'd say).

  A whopping 72% of us claimed to be musicians, and somewhat coincidentally
(but not too surprisingly) 72% of that 72% (52% of the total respondents)
report being guitarists. The average respondent has been playing his/her
instrument for 12.7 years. Nearly all the responding musicians, guitarists
and non-guitarists alike, claimed Holdsworth to be an influence to some
degree.

  Now, on the the meat of the survey: those questions which directly
concern Mr. Holdsworth's music, how we came to know it, and how we
perceive it today. The average respondent to the survey owns 13.32
albums/etc. which feature Allan Holdsworth, which is pretty good when
you consider how difficult many of these releases are to find; that
amounts to about one-third of the 41 *known* releases so far. The "most
wanted" (albums you don't own but wish you *could*) list goes like this:

  1st Place:   _Road Games_, with 5 mentions;
  2nd Place:   _Soma_, with 3 mentions;
  3rd Place:   _Sand_, with 2 mentions.

  That last one surprised me a little, but both people listing that one
are in the U.K., and as we all know, the British seem to be having a tough
time getting even the solo material... definitely something to work on.

  The rest of the field, with one entry each, is:

   Atavachron
   Attack of the Neon Shark (A.Masi)
   Forty Reasons (C.Wackerman)
   Gazeuse! (Gong)
   Metal Fatigue
   Silent Will (A.Marcelli)
   The Distance Between (Strange Advance)
   Touching On (J.Stevens)
   U.K. (U.K.)
   Velvet Darkness

  After seeing this, I promise to make the mail-order addendum to the
discography a top priority, since many of these are available from places
like Noteworthy and Wayside. However, I still know of no sources for
the Soma CD, nor the Igginbottom's Wrench (which incidentally was not
listed by anyone as a "most wanted" release).

  In the catagory of the album where we first heard Holdsworth play,
there figures looked like this:

  1st Place: (tie) _U.K._ and _Road Games_, each with 6 entries;
  2nd Place: (tie) _Metal Fatigue_ and _Enigmatic Ocean_, each with 4 entries;
  3rd place: (tie) _I.O.U._ and _Atavachron_, each with 2 entries.

  A smattering of others were mentioned, as well.

  Most of us have seen Allan in live performance -- 76% of us answered
"yes" to that question, with 44% reporting seeing him on more than one
occasion. Gee, now I don't feel like such a die-hard.  :)  A surprising
number of folks here also seem to have met Allan (mentioned in some survey
responses, and elsewhere, either via private e-mail or mentioned on the
list).

  There were quite a variety of artists mentioned by people when asked
about collaborations. Only four names came up more than once, and those
were Michael Brecker, John McLaughlin, Steve Morse and two posthumous
wishes for a collaboration between Allan and Jaco Pastorious. Also listed
were several musicians with whom Holdsworth has worked in the past, such
as Bill Bruford, Vinnie Colaiuta, Chick Corea and Eddie Jobson. Others
mentioned included Rod Morgenstein, Bill Frisell, John Zorn, Yo Yo Ma,
Mark Wood, Michael Manring, Paul McCandless, Yngwie Malmsteen, Donald
Fagen, Frank Zappa, Ornette Coleman, Robert Fripp, Peter Gabriel, Didier
Lockwood, Jerry Goodman, Scott Henderson, Pharoah Sanders, Mary Coughlan,
Jack DeJohnette, Howard Shore, Jonas Helborg, Carlos Santana, Steve Vai,
Mino Cinelu and Pat Metheny. What a stage this would fill!

  Lastly, we come to the album ratings. The scores were derived by
simply adding up the individual scores for each title, and dividing
that number by the total number of responses for that title -- simple
averaging. However, adjustments to some of the scores were made; any
scores outside the specified range of 1 to 10 were modified to reflect
either the top or bottom of the range (sorry folks, those 11s and -1s
just didn't make it into the averaging). Since I have never had a
statistics class in my life, I'm sure there's quite a margin of error
in the final tally, but hey, who cares?  ;)  This gives us a good
ballpark figure all the way around -- anyone wanting the raw data to
obsess over is welcome to it (if you don't mind waiting a few weeks
for me to extract it from one huge file).  ;)
  The average title received 8.122 responses; because of this, the
first list is of the titles which received a rating by at least 8 of
the respondents. I felt that any title receiving less than 8 responses
was probably not a good sample, and therefore would have little value
as a datapoint. That left us with 20 titles (out of 41). However, I have
also listed the complete list of scores, which includes all the titles
regardless of the number of responses (along with the actual number of
responses in parathensis) at the end of this posting.
  And the winners are... (*drum roll*)

  Title                                          Average score
  =============================================================================
  Metal Fatigue                                  8.75
  One of a Kind (B.Bruford)                      8.64
  U.K. (U.K.)                                    8.44
  Gazeuse! (Gong)                                8.42
  Atavachron                                     8.12
  Forty Reasons (C.Wackerman)                    8.09
  I.O.U.                                         7.98
  Road Games                                     7.94
  Feels Good To Me (B.Bruford)                   7.89
  Master Strokes (B.Bruford)                     7.88
  Secrets                                        7.63
  Enigmatic Ocean (J.Ponty)                      7.46
  Sand                                           7.43
  With A Heart In My Song (G.Beck)               7.13
  Individual Choice (J.Ponty)                    7.11
  Expresso II (Gong)                             7.00
  MVP: Truth In Shredding (F.Gambale)            6.50
  Guaranteed (Level 42)                          6.25
  If This Bass Could Only Talk (S.Clarke)        5.67
  Velvet Darkness                                5.50

  Here's the complete list:

  Title                                          Average score (# responding)
  =============================================================================
  Metal Fatigue                                  8.75 (21)
  One of a Kind (B.Bruford)                      8.64 (14)
  U.K. (U.K.)                                    8.44 (16)
  Gazeuse! (Gong)                                8.42 (12)
  Believe It (T.Williams)                        8.40  (5)
  Atavachron                                     8.12 (21)
  Forty Reasons (C.Wackerman)                    8.09 (11)
  Lone Ranger (J.Watson)                         8.00  (1)
  I.O.U.                                         7.98 (20)
  Road Games (EP)                                7.94 (19)
  Feels Good To Me (B.Bruford)                   7.89 (14)
  Master Strokes (B.Bruford)                     7.88  (8)
  Secrets                                        7.63 (19)
  No Borders (C.Verheyen)                        7.50  (2)
  Silent Will (A.Marcelli)                       7.50  (6)
  Enigmatic Ocean (J.Ponty)                      7.46 (13)
  Sand                                           7.43 (15)
  With A Heart In My Song (G.Beck)               7.13  (8)
  Individual Choice (J.Ponty)                    7.11  (9)
  Belladonna (I.Carr)                            7.00  (1)
  Bundles (Soft Machine)                         7.00  (3)
  Conversation Piece (J.Stevens)                 7.00  (2)
  Expresso II (Gong)                             7.00 (10)
  Guitar's Practicing Musicians (various)        7.00  (3)
  The Things You See/Sunbird (G.Beck)            7.00  (2)
  Million Dollar Legs (T.Williams)               6.67  (6)
  MVP: Truth In Shredding (F.Gambale)            6.50  (9)
  Retouch (J.Stevens)                            6.50  (2)
  A Question of Time (J.Bruce)                   6.33  (3)
  Guaranteed (Level 42)                          6.25  (8)
  Radio Free Albemuth (S.Hamm)                   6.19  (7)
  Tempest (Tempest)                              6.17  (6)
  If This Bass Could Only Talk (S.Clarke)        5.67  (9)
  Touching On (J.Stevens)                        5.67  (3)
  Velvet Darkness                                5.50 (16)
  Time Is The Key (Gong)                         5.40  (5)
  Attack of the Neon Shark (A.Masi)              5.00  (2)
  Fast Impressions (J.St.James)                  5.00  (1)
  Igginbottom's Wrench (Igginbottom)             no responses
  Soma (Soma)                                    no responses
  The Distance Between (Strange Advance)         no responses

  In closing, I'd also like to thank everyone for the kind comments
about the list in general; those comments were overwhelmingly positive.
The one suggestion that popped up several times was "let's have more
tablature!"  Well, that's a fantastic suggestion, certainly. But if it
weren't for the efforts of people like Jim Trivellas and Elliot Freedman,
we wouldn't have had *any* tablature posted at all. What I'm trying to
say is "this stuff doesn't type itself in."  :)  So, if you've worked
out a transcription, send it in!  I would volunteer to do some myself,
but believe me, I haven't reached the point where I can figure out what
the man is doing, even when using half-speed tape and pitch-shifting, so
my contributions would be pretty slipshod, at best. Jim and Elliot, on
the other hand, seem to have the situation in hand... maybe we could
bribe them to keep up the good work...?  ;)
  At least one subscriber wondered what would be done with this data;
well, I'll tell you what *won't* be done with it: It will not be given
to either Akira Yada or Restless Records. I doubt very seriously if
Allan would appreciate any pressure from these sources to "change to
fit a demographic mold," so that is out of the question. However, if
Allan himself were to express interest in seeing the compiled results
(without the names of the participants, of course), I can't think of
any objection from my perspective -- again, I'd like to get your input
on this.
  Thanks again, folks... we'll do it again sometime (*groan*).  :)

  Jeff Preston

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           Atavachron Digest - The Allan Holdsworth Discussion List
                              Volume 2, Number 23

                          Monday September 21st, 1992

                                TODAY'S TOPICS:
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                        ADA & ADA Stereo Tapped Delays
                              Meeting the Brewer
                                   Red Alert
                               Holdsworth dates
                           Re: Atavachron Digest #22
                          An Allan Holdsworth weekend

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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 17:24:53 PDT
From: freedman@mprgate.mpr.ca (Elliot Freedman)
Subject: ADA & ADA Stereo Tapped Delays


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ADA STD-1
--------------------

Firstly, I'll assume that everyone knows what the ADA STD-1 is.  (If this
is not the case, go back and listen to IOU.  The answer to your question
"Why is the guitar sound on 'Where Is One?' so utterly beautiful?" is
(at least in terms of toys) that an ADA STD-1 was used for that subtle, yet
so rich chorusing effect.)

I've got one, I picked it up in Holland while living there over the last
two & a half years.  After catching the glint of the ADA monicker in the
corner of my eye in a "less than reputable, less than friendly" music
store, I spent 20 minutes in sonic ecstacy playing this.

Needless to say, they realized that I was a sucker for this unit and posted
an unreal price (fl. 1100, about $600 US).  I came in a few days later,
kept my composure (trying not too look too sonically obsessed) and talked
them down to (fl. 800) -- not great, but I had to have the unit.

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Quest for another
-----------------

Well, I'm greedy as hell for another one and in a burst of altruism thought
that much of the playing portion of _Atavachron_ would quite likely be
interested in the unit as well.

(If you are not interested in an ADA STD-1 and do see one in a music store
or pawn shop, I'm at 'freedman@mprgate.mpr.ca' -- Please contact me!!)

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ADA response
----------------------

At any (raving) rate :), I called ADA (who have now shifted towards
pre-amplification, power amps, & cabinets.  A very receptive, seemingly
sincere Sales Manager (?) Matthew Crist informed me that the request list
for the long discontinued unit is quite large and includes such names as
Holdsworth & "other sponsors".

------------------------
The heart of the matter...
------------------------

I wonder if we could mobilize those interested in the unit towards
convincing ADA that they should do another run of the product.

If you are interested please send me your name.

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Epilogue
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Are we not endlessly trying to convince the "market" to produce that which
has not been suited to the "masses" (AH tours, Road Games, ADA STD-1s).

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Deep Thought
-----------------------------

I would not want to venture too deep into sentimentality, we've really
yet to meet...  but, this commonality between the _Atavachron_ subscribers,
at least in our tastes, is very cool.

--------------------
Regards,

Elliot E. Freedman
freedman@mprgate.mpr.ca

Vancouver, Canada

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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 18:13:04 PDT
From: pvallado@sdcc13.UCSD.EDU (Paolo Valladolid )
Subject: Meeting the Brewer


I guess I'll make my little contribution to the collection of stories about
meeting Allan.  At the concert where I saw him live ( for the first time, I
 might add :-) ), I ran into what I call a "professional backstage hunter".  He
told me how he would meet the star of a show by either showing up super early
when the artist would be running a soundcheck, or heading to the back of the
 venue after the concert. So, after the concert, I followed this man. Sure
 enough,
we found the back door and we were let in!  Chad Wackerman, Skuly Sverisson,
and Steve Hunter were taking it easy after a hard night's work and Allan
was explaining to someone the logic behind his double necked custom guitar
( it was headless on both necks like a Steinberger, but with a wooden body.
Both necks had 6 strings but the upper one was tuned in fifths ).  Upon later
reflection, I could not believe I had the balls to ask Allan if I could try
*his* legendary white Steinberger! He nonchalantly handed it over and I
sheepishly sat down and strummed the intro to Pat Metheny's "Jaco". I looked
up and *everyone* was looking at me, as if they expected me to try to impress
Allan with my own licks. Needless to say, I felt even more self-concious because
I just wanted to check out the guitar and see if *the pros* really do set their
action high and if Allan was using a short scale fretboard to facilitate those
notorious stretches. The answer to both questions in my mind was NO; the actions
was, I guess, average and the fretboard seemed to be the standard 25 1/2 scale.
Then, I handed my Jim Hall book (_Exploring Jazz Guitar_) over to Allan to
sign and he made a comment about Jim's book being better than his own. I asked
him if he ever got around to playing sax and his response was no, but he did
play clarinet at one time. He then reached into a case. I expected him to
pull out a clarinet and told him so. As he pulled out his new main squeeze,
a wooden Steinberger-like guitar, he said, no, not tonight. Then he looked me
in the eye and said, "You know, I never wanted to be a musician".  It looked
 like
he was ready to call it a night, so I excused myself and thanked him profusely
for his time. He said its quite alright and wished me good luck.

Well that's it. If anybody else met Allan and would like to share their story,
by all means do it. I think its a great idea!

Cheers,
Paolo

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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 18:30:48 PDT
From: edju@aludra.usc.edu (Dr. Hannibal Lecter)
Subject: Red Alert

	Lynn mentioned that Joe Satriani worshiped the "Red Alert" solo.  Can
somebody tell me from which record that was from?
									Eddie
PS Thanks "Crapola"!

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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 20:31:18 EDT
From: John Chitalia 
Subject: Holdsworth dates


I'm not sure if you already know this, but this is what I know so far.

Fri 10/16/92           Ft. Lauderdale, FL     Musician's Exchange
Sat 10/17/92                   "                       "
(2 shows each night for the above)
Sun 10/18/92           St. Petersburg, FL     Club Detroit

I don't know the # of shows for St. Pete because Ticketmaster hasn't even
confirmed the show although Club Detroit is advertising the show in various
local magazines.  The info for the first two dates are from TM.  I'm still
awaiting word on the Orlando date.  Also, since there's a St. Pete date, I
doubt there'll be a Tampa date.

JC

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  [Moderator's note: Lennart sent this to me yesterday and asked me
  to post it to the list if I thought it was of general interest. He
  asked that I check over it for any obvious errors in translation
  and asked that I make any necessary corrections. Overall, the text
  remains essentially unaltered (Lennart's translation seemed pretty
  good), but I have a few comments: 1) the interview seems to be about
  a year old, so the comments about Capitol Records and Wackerman's
  "upcoming solo record" may be due to that; 2) the upcoming European
  tour mentioned here has probably already occured (April 1992);
  3) the album he's talking about is probably the upcoming _Wardenclyffe
  Tower_, which is still slated for release next month on Restless - JP]

Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 20:04:46 MET DST
From: Lennart Hedenstr|m 
Subject: Swedish interview with Allan

I picked up the September issue of a Swedish magazine called
"Musiker Magasinet", which means something like "Musicians
Magazine". In there, is an interview with Allan Holdsworth done by
a fellow called Bosse Johansson. Apparently Allan played at a jazz
club in Stockholm called "Fashing" sometime ago, and he is headed
back to Europe and Sweden to play within six months. All according
to the article. It is a two page interview so I will not have time
to translate the whole article, but just point out some possibly
interesting things Allan said. The article starts off presenting
the fact that Allan is a highly respected musician, but that he
isn't rich moneywise like other musicians in the same position.
The author says something like that it might have something to do
with the fact that he doesn't look like the average "guitar hero"
and that Allan never compromises. The story goes on and Allan says
he even had to sell his house in England to afford buying the Synthaxe.


The last section of the article is interesting so I tried to
translate it :

"...There's quite a large amount of interest in USA. We play at small
clubs but there's always a lot of people, but in Europe it's much
tougher for us. We hardly get gigs over here. The booking companies
don't seem to know who we are.. The most terrifying thing is that I
have a manager, but he doesn't seem to succeed either...It's like some
kind of "catch-22" situation.
  - Now I am risking my family if I continue like this. I have been
thinking for quite some time to get a "regular" job. As a matter of
fact I have had different kinds of jobs since I started out as a
musician in '72. I have played in top-40 bands, worked in a shop
selling bags and also in a bicycle store etc.
  - The most comic thing is that my records gets deleted, mostly the
more recent and successful ones. The latest one "Secrets", which is my
best one so far, was deleted when my record company Enigma was bought
by Capitol. I have another album recorded on Enigma, but it is not
mixed. The question is if it is ever going to be released...
  - I have completed another album that I hope will be released soon.
Then Chad Wackerman is releasing a solo record. So I hope that there
will be some things out there as a counter-weight to all the crap that
the Japanese companies are releasing; bootlegs with 20 years old music.
That feels very frustrating.
  - No, I am going to give it another try, or else I will call it quits.
During this last year I actually have been thinking about quitting
music."

That's how the obviously very bitter Allan Holdsworth ends the interview.

Lennart

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 92 05:24:06 CDT
From: tmadson@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Todd Madson)
Subject: Re: Atavachron Digest #22

Ack!  I knew I'd miss the survey response.  Gack!  Sorry, better luck next
time.  I understand that Audiophile Imports out of the U.S. is going to
finally get SOMA on CD.  I can't wait - I've got nearly everything else.  I'll
report any possible luck I have.

UUCP: {amdahl!bungia, crash}!orbit!pnet51!tmadson
ARPA: crash!orbit!pnet51!tmadson@nosc.mil
INET: tmadson@pnet51.orb.mn.org

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Date:         Mon, 21 Sep 92 10:23:52 EDT
From:         PRESTON@morekypr.bitnet
Subject:      An Allan Holdsworth weekend


  A truly memorable weekend...

  Seeing as how Allan's Cincinnati show had been cancelled, and most of my
friends either had to work or had prior commitments for the weekend, I ended
up renting a car to drive to Columbus for Allan's show Friday night (yes, I
know -- I am a fanatic, thank you).  ;)  I arrived at Stache's about an hour
before the door opened, and was fortunate enough to catch part of the sound
check in progress through the window. It sounded like we were in for a treat.
Already my expectations were high, since I'd stopped in at a new music store
in Morehead before heading out of town, and I happened to see a CD on the
counter, titled _Guitar On The Edge, Vol. 1 No. 2_ . It had 15 or so names
on the front, including Allan's, so I picked it up. His track was titled
"Zarabeth," and was listed as being on the Restless release, _Wardenclyffe
Tower_ . Wow, said I to myself. I rushed to a nearby friend's house and
recorded it for the trip up to Columbus... wonderful ballad, btw. Well, no
need to panic... you haven't missed the release of _Wardenclyffe Tower_ ;
that's slated for October 10th, as I later learned in Columbus.
  So, I was standing outside Stache's waiting for the door to open, and
for the next 45 minutes I saw the entire band come and go several times.
I only briefly said "hello" to each of them since they seemed to be in
quite a big hurry to get things ready for the show. Once inside, I took
a seat on the front row in front of Steve Hunt's keyboard setup. There
was some additional gear set up in front of Gary Husband's drums, so
there was going to be a opening act. They turned out to be quite a good
fusion trio from Columbus (I didn't catch the name, though). Has anyone
ever heard a jazz-funk version of "Harper Valley PTA"?  Well, now I can
say *I* have!  :)
  Allan and "the chaps" (Steve Hunt, keys; Skuli Spherrisson, bass; Gary
Husband, drums) took the stage at about 9:45 and played until around 10:35,
then took a short break until about 11:15. The second set lasted until
about 12:20, with one encore. The set list follows:

Looking Glass
Pud Wud
Sphere Of Innocence *
Non-Brewed Condiment
(title not announced) *
The Things You See (When You Haven't Got Your Gun)

break

Proto-Cosmos
Funnels
Water On The Brain, Pt. II
Devil Take The Hindmost
Zarabeth *
Letters Of Marque
White Line

encore:

Shallow Sea

* = new tunes from _Wardenclyffe Tower_

  To be honest, while the show was good, it was plagued by various slips
and stutters... Allan and Gary both had their share of troubles that night
(though Gary had innumerably more difficulties than anyone else, certainly).
For one, Stache's is a very small club and not well ventilated, which made
it unbearably hot once the 200 or so people crowded into it, and I'm sure
that made it rather difficult to concentrate. There were also a number of
rude folks in the crowd, who were yelling out song titles in the middle of
quiet passages. The major gaffe came in Gary's drum solo in "Letters Of
Marque," where he continually was hitting his own sticks, and at one point
hit a microphone above one of his toms, at which point he stopped drumming,
and reached over and flipped the mic with his finger, as if to emphasize
his mistake. At that point he broke into a heavy rock beat and built back
up into a good recovery. Amazingly, while this was going on, Allan was
nearly laughing himself off the stage, so at least the spirit remained high.
For the encore, Allan brought out the baritone guitar and did a rousing
rendition of "Shallow Sea."

  After the show, there were a number of people hanging around the bar,
so I decided to wait around to see if the band were coming back out to
talk with the crowd. One guy I spoke to after the show said he'd seen
Allan 5 times at Stache's, and each time he'd always came out and signed
autographs and chatted with the fans, so I was encouraged by that news.
Sure enough, after about 15 minutes, Steve Hunt and Skuli came out. Steve
was headed my direction, so I offered my congratulations on the show
(which, I might add, he was hesitant to accept... he thought they'd had
a bad night, too), and mentioned my disappointment about the Cincinnati
show's cancellation. He said they were also let down by that, since
Bogart's is a nice club... he said they'd heard Bogart's was in financial
trouble, but he wasn't sure. I then asked if the Knoxville show were
still on, and he said "Knoxville?  We've never played Tennesee... where
did you hear we'd be playing Knoxville?"  I then told him about the list
and how I'd gotten the itinerary from Akira Yada, and then he remembered
Allan mentioning Atavachron to him at some point. He broke out the new
itinerary, and started showing me the dates. It looked basically the same
as what I had received, but most of the "TBA" dates had been filled in.
He said he'd see if he could find the venue names for those which were
still unannounced, and then went off in the direction of the front door.
  By this time, Allan had come out and was standing behind the bar,
talking to several loud (and somewhat inebriated!) people. A group of
8 or 9 were surrounding the end of the bar, and Allan was alternately
signing ticket stubs and trying to carry on several conversations at
once. Once a lull came around, I stuck out my hand and introduced myself,
and I was really surprised by the fact that he remembered my name and
seemed eager to speak with me. I referred to the letter which Claire had
sent, asking if we might provide some "feedback" from the list, and
handed him the envelope which contained some of the high points of the
survey results (all anonymously, of course) and comments, along with
5-6 pages of comments taken from the Atavachron archives. I told him I
had tried to put together a balanced representation of opinions, and
that I hoped any criticisms would be taken in the spirit in which they
were offered. Other people were shouting out for his attention, so I
stood quietly there for a few minutes, and once again stepped up and
shook hands with him and wished them well on the tour. As I turned to
go, he touched my shoulder and I turned around and he offered his hand
thanking me again, saying, "Really -- thanks for all your help. You call
me anytime I can be of help."  As I was leaving, I heard one of the other
fans ask what Atavachron was all about, and heard Allan start into a
credible explanation of the list. Sorry to bore you with the details, but
for me, this was a proud moment indeed.

  The next day, I was calling some friends to tell them about the show.
One of my friends (Gary Wells) who had had to work Friday night said he
wished he had more money, because if so he'd love to drive to Dayton to
catch Saturday night's show. I only thought for about a half-second and
told him I'd pay for his ticket and gas if he'd do the driving. It took
him about that long to jump in the car and head towards Morehead.  :)
  The show in Dayton was in a club named Gilly's (with a soft "g"), which
was a very nice club, indeed... quite a switch from Stache's (oooh, ahhh --
air conditioning!). There was no opening act, so the show started at 9:30.
The set list was the same, including the break, but *what a difference*!
When the band took the stage, Allan looked down and saw us sitting there
and raised his eyebrows in surprised expression, as if to say "What are
you doing here again?!?" Well hey, I hadn't expected to be there, either,
but I sure am glad I got ahold of Gary on Saturday afternoon, because
the playing this night was 1000 times more together than it had been the
night before in Columbus... I think the atmosphere and the less-rowdy
crowd were contributing factors, but whatever the reasons, this show was
nothing short of ENTIRELY AMAZING!  There were times when I was sure
the entire band would just float off of the stage, as if they could defy
gravity (sorry, Mr. Beer).  :)  This seemed to be a completely different
band... my friend Gary was stupefied. He has been a Holdsworth listener
for almost as long as I have, yet he was never that big a fan. That's
all we listened to on the way home from Dayton, and now he's asked for
the archives of the list and a discography.  :)  Yet another fanatic is
spawned!
  The only difference between the sets, tune-wise, was the encore. In
Columbus, they had done a fairly straightfoward version of "Shallow Sea";
in Dayton, Allan didn't use the baritone guitar on this number, and the
beginning of it was an all-out improv session which went on for about 10
minutes. It only sounded like "Shallow Sea" in the last minute or so of
the tune, but everyone was so blown away by the improvisation that no one
seemed to mind. I sure didn't!

  We weren't sure if the club was going to allow people to stay at first,
since they started announcing upcoming shows over the P.A. and storing tables
and chairs almost the moment Allan and the band left the stage, but I figured
we would take our chances on being asked to leave (nothing ventured...).
I'd brought my copy of _Reaching For The Uncommon Chord_ in hopes that I
might be able to get Allan and the band to autograph it for me, so I didn't
want to give up too easily. Like Stache's, there were a number of well-wishers
hanging out. Steve Hunt came out fairly quickly, and said Allan would be out
after he finished a beer. We and a few others chatted with Steve, and I asked
him to sign my book, and complimented him on the excellent performance. Then
Gary and Skuli came out, but they both disappeared pretty quickly. Allan came
out a few minutes later, and then the fans converged. My friend Gary and I
tried to stay to the side of the crowd, and believe it or not, all but a
couple of people had cleared out in about 4-5 minutes... essentially as soon
as everyone got his autograph and had exchaged pleasantries. One fellow
asked Allan if he were still into cycling, and Allan said "yeah," but then
after the guy told him he competed in cycling events, Allan told him that
while he used to race, he hadn't the time anymore to prepare for races, and
that he had trouble staying in top form because of touring.
  After this, Allan turned and greeted me, and I handed him the book, which
he signed and handed back. I told him I thought they were off to a good tour
if tonight's show were any indication of what was to come, since they were
really "on" compared to the show the night before at Stache's. He said it
certainly hadn't seemed that way from his end, and that he'd felt odd about
playing since the tour began. Of course I said maybe the fact that this was
only the fourth show just meant that he was just getting into the swing of
things again, and he said he hoped it got better as the tour progressed. I
said I'd sure like to be at subsequent shows if that were the case, since
this performance was quite literally "over the top" in all senses. I told him
I was a bit disappointed that the Cincinnati show had been cancelled, and
even moreso that the Knoxville show had swapped off. He reiterated Steve's
comments about Bogart's in Cincinnati being in financial trouble, but they
didn't know whether this were true or not. As Steve Hunt had indicated the
night before, no one had heard any plans of a Knoxville show. I told him
that I'd only heard in the last week about the Bogart's show, and that
I'd called Akira Yada and left a message asking for any updates which he
might have. Allan seemed a bit annoyed when I said that he hadn't returned
my call, and said, "I'm really surprised that Akira hasn't gotten back to
you about that," and said it would be no problem if I wanted to call his
wife to get the information once I'd gotten back home. I said I'd happily
write down the changes right there if we could find a copy of the itinerary
so we tracked down Steve Hunt to borrow his copy. Allan said he could call
me with the club names for the dates which were still "TBA," and Steve said
all of those dates (which were all in the South) were now confirmed. I
started jotting down the few changes made.
  By this time, Skuli had joined this gathering of Allan, Steve, my friend
Gary and myself. Allan said something about how the band had been looking at
the excerpts from the list I'd given him the night before in Columbus, and
how amazing the whole concept of networking was to them all. He then
introduced us to Skuli, and went off to speak to the two women who were at
the table in front of us. Skuli seemed especially interested in the whole
electronic mail thing, and asked me dozens of questions about the networks
in general. I told him we had several Swedes on the list, to which he
replied "I'm from Iceland," much to my embarrassment.  :)  He also signed
the book, and flipped through it, at one point getting Allan's attention
and pointing to one of the pictures in the book (the picture of the "house"
sign at the bottom of page 109, for those of you with the book) and saying
"Hey, we played here last spring, didn't we?" to which Allan replied, "Yep,
that's such a great place." I told Allan that we'd heard that _Reaching For
The Uncommon Chord_ had been picked up by another publisher, and he seemed
surprised. He asked that I get back with him with the address.  I hope
this isn't another ripoff deal, but he seemed pleasantly surprised, so
hopefully it isn't. Bringing up the subject of books reminded Allan of the
birthday gift we sent, and he asked me to pass along his thanks to the
list for the thought. He said he really enjoyed the books and the card.

  About this time, Allan and Steve started discussing their evening plans
(they were planning to gather at a local tavern), and I told Allan and Steve
that we'd better be heading home. They invited us to tag along to the bar,
but I didn't want to impose myself on these guys, so I told them of the
3.5 hour drive ahead of us and that we'd really better get started, but
thanks (!) for the invitation anyway. If only I hadn't been so tired from
the night before... oh well. Allan stepped forward and shook our hands
again and thanked us for coming up, and said he'd be in touch soon about
the the Atavachron interview and to keep us abreast of anything else. I
we were leaving, I couldn't help but think what great guys they all were
for hanging out and talking to us (even though we never did see Gary Husband
after he exited the dressing room). Color me overjoyed.  :)

  Jeff Preston

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From:         atavachron@morekypr
Subject:      Atavachron Digest #24
To:           Jeff Preston 

           Atavachron Digest - The Allan Holdsworth Discussion List
                              Volume 2, Number 24

                          Monday September 28th, 1992

                                TODAY'S TOPICS:
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                               Jeff's hard work
           Re: *** Atavachron Update -- new tour dates, changes ***
                          Joe Satriani's New Guitar?
           Re: CONCERT: Allan Holdsworth *updated* itinerary [U.S.]
                      Lyrics on _IOU_ and _Metal Fatigue_
                     Welcome to Atavachron! / discography
                          9/24 show in Cambridge, MA
                       Elliot Freedman's incredible tape
                         AH at the Iron Horse 9/23/92

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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 92 10:38:43 BST
From: a740778@server1.tiuk.ti.com (Jason Julyan              (0004      ))
Subject: Jeff's hard work


I just gotta say a big "Thanks!" to Jeff Preston for all the effort he's
putting in to make Atavachron really mean something more than just a
discussion group.

No doubt if I was in Allan's position whereby the majority of fans I met
were fairly drunk and just wanted an autograph and handshake I'd be
pretty disillusioned with life/music aswell.  Its always good to meet
someone who really appreciates what you're doing - helps you realise there's
a silent majority out there who you'll never see but whose life you have
touched in some way, hopefully for the better.

We've all gotta pull together on this one and make sure any thoughts of
Allan's of getting a day job are dispelled.  Mind you, if my CD purchases
since I got the discography are anything to go by, he should soon be
knocking ol' Billy-boy Gates off the richest man spot :-/

Forget buying your niece/nephew that crappy top 40 album they so wanted
for christmas and give 'em some cultured A.H. - after all, if they dont want
it then you can keep it :-)

Ah! I feel better after that :-)

TTFN, Jason

Jason B.E. Julyan			| Texas Instruments Ltd
a740778@server1.tiuk.ti.com		| Bedford, U.K.

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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 92 21:36:23 +1000
From: chuck@cs.unsw.oz.au (Mark Andrew Hawling)
Subject: Re: *** Atavachron Update -- new tour dates, changes ***

Where's Australia on there!!! Bummer!!!

Can you suggest that he comes all the way down here again, because
there are a whole heap of fans down here. I know last time he came
down here he had to sell his equipment before he could fly home,
and that he only played in shitty venues like the Bridge Hotel,
BUT still there is a loyal following.

chuck

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Date: Wed, 23 Sep 92 17:39:55 PDT
From: pvallado@sdcc13.UCSD.EDU (Paolo Valladolid )
Subject: Joe Satriani's New Guitar?


In the October 1992 issue of _Musician_, Joe Satriani appears on a photo
with a guitar that looks exactly like the guitar I saw Allan play earlier
this year!  I wonder why he chose to be photographed with Allan's guitar
instead of his own Ibanez...

Cheers,
Paolo

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Date: Thu, 24 Sep 92 10:07:58 -0700
From: heiser@adobe.com (Rob Heiser)
Subject: Re: CONCERT: Allan Holdsworth *updated* itinerary [U.S.]

In article <1992Sep23.080046.21479@dutrun2.tudelft.nl>, you wrote:
>
>   Here are the changes and additional performance dates for Allan
> Holdsworth. His wife, Claire, was kind enough to go over the updated
> itinerary with me on the phone this evening, and all of the following
> shows are confirmed. The "TBA" dates -- call your local ticket agent
> for venue information.

Jeff,

	Have you heard of Allan coming through Cali anytime in the near future?
I'd love to see him again, especially if he'll be playing at the Kuumbwa
Jazz Center in Santa Cruz...Keep the updates coming!


Rob Heiser                        Adobe Systems Incorporated
heiser@adobe.com                  Software Quality Assurance Engineer

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Date: Thu, 24 Sep 92 07:49:52 PDT
From: pvallado@sdcc13.UCSD.EDU (Paolo Valladolid )
Subject: Lyrics on _IOU_ and _Metal Fatigue_


Who wrote the lyrics to the songs with vocals on those albums?

Paolo

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Date: 25 Sep 92 13:00:47 EDT
From: Michael Young <76526.1454@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Welcome to Atavachron! / discography

re: AH discography

Allan Holdsworth also appears on Soft Machine's "Land of Cockayne" (sp?),
which I believe came out around 1979.  Not sure which label, perhaps someone
out there has a SM discography?

Michael Young
Vancouver, B.C.

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Date: Fri, 25 Sep 92 15:54:57 -0400
From: rardin%bad.dnet@auriga
Subject: 9/24 show in Cambridge, MA

I attended the 7:30 Allan Holdsworth show at Nightstage last night.  As usual,
Allan's playing was phenomenal.  I was also very impressed by Steve Hunt's
playing.  Personally, I would have been more excited to see Chad Wackerman
sitting behind the drum kit.  Despite my feelings, the crowd really seemed to
be into Husband's work.

While waiting in line for Nightstage to open the doors, a guy came along and
passed out a flyer to everyone in line advertising that he had "tapes of Allan
Holdsworth in Boston 1991...videos of AH at...plus tapes of Steve Morse,
Return to Forever..."  Seems to me to be pretty bold to pass this sort of
thing out right under the nose of the artist.  Allan got ahold of a copy of
the flyer and after the first or second song said, "It seems that we have a
lot more tapes and videos out than we thought we did.  I'd sure like to get
ahold of the guy who's passing these out and have a talk with him after the
show..."  Then Allan laid his copy of the flyer down on top of his some of his
gear.  I had a clear view of the "flyer guy" and was amused to see that he
didn't seem to get much enjoyment out of the show after Allan's
announcement. :)  After the set was over and the band had left the stage, the
"flyer guy" moved toward the stage, pretending to be interested in Allan's
equipment.  When he got over near the stack of equipment where Allan had laid
down his copy of the flyer, the guy quickly moved in and grabbed the flyer,
then quickly headed for the exit.  What a guy.  I found a security person and
gave him my copy of the flyer and asked him to pass it along to Allan (it had
the guy's number on it, so it was worthwhile for Allan to have a copy, I
thought).

Does anyone else have comments on the Boston or other shows?  I'd be
interested to hear opionions.

-Lynn

< R. Lynn Rardin (rardin@auriga.rose.brandeis.edu)  >
< Rosenstiel Basic Medical Sciences Research Center >
< Brandeis University, Waltham, MA 02254-9110       >

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Date:         Sun, 27 Sep 92 01:44:08 EDT
From:         PRESTON@morekypr.bitnet
Subject:      Elliot Freedman's incredible tape


  Way back yonder (there's an eastern Kentuckyism for y'all) in Atavachron
#17, back in the dim, dark past of six weeks ago when, among other things,
we were discussing various Holdsworth-influenced guitarists, I said that
the most Holdsworthian guitar player *I'd* heard was one whose name you
might recognize, but whose music you probably hadn't heard. Well, the
person of whom I speak walks among us here on the list, and his name is
Elliot Freedman, from Vancouver, British Columbia. I assure you, if you
are looking for something in the same vein as _I.O.U._ , you should
contact him and arrange to get a copy of his tape -- you won't be sorry.

  When I first heard the tape, I was ready to say that Elliot's style
was almost entirely derivative of Allan's. But on repeated listenings, it
occurs to me that only the arrangements and the tonality are justifiably
compared; the chordal selection is sometimes rather reminiscient of Mr.
Holdsworth, but the changes are quite different; only in the tune "Open
Architectures" (the oldest tune included on the tape) do I hear changes
which send me looking for direct comparisons. Otherwise, there's a definite
departure in structure, and in the 5-year span which this material covers,
one can hear Elliot's own stylistic evolution. However, I think anyone
familiar with Allan Holdsworth's work will invariably make a connection
between the two players.
  The playing on the tape is, without exception, extraordinary. Joining
Elliot's fine guitar work here are bassists Hans van Binsbergen, Steve
Wood, Philip Blekxtoon, Robin Dymond and Dino Dinicolo, and drummers Rene
Engel, Michael Cassels, Ruben van Roon, Paulo Federico and Paul Mason.
I feel a little better knowing he had to go halfway around the globe to
find some of these guys -- you don't find players in my neighborhood who
want to do this type of material, that's for sure!
  I tried to pick a few favorites to name in the review, but I like them
all too well to single any one tune out. So... what more can I say?  Get
the tape -- it's five star material. You can contact Elliot at:

  freedman@mprgate.mpr.ca

  As I said, I think anyone who enjoyed the _I.O.U._ album (and even _Road
Games_ to an extent) ought to enjoy this material. I recommend it highly,
especially for those of us who play and enjoy a heaping helping of humility
every once in a while.  :)

  Jeff Preston

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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 10:22:43 -0400
From: barrett@astro.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Subject: AH at the Iron Horse 9/23/92


	Last night, I saw Allan and his band at the Iron Horse in
Northampton, MA.  This is a FABULOUS place to see shows; definitely worth a
car trip if you're within (say) 150 miles.  It's an intimate coffee house
that serves dinner before the show, and everyone sits a little 2-or-4-person
tables.  It gets smokey but not terribly so.  I got there 20 minutes early
and had my choice of the best seats in the house.

	The band played a similar, but not identical, set of songs from the
ones that Jeff Preston mentioned.  For example, "Non-Brewed Condiment" was
in the second set, and the encore was a jam based on "Material Real".

	Overall it was a good concert, but not the best I've seen from these
folks; complaints are at the end of this article.  The band wasn't really
together for the first few tunes; they didn't seem in sync with one another.
Gary Husband (drums) was throwing sticks left and right for the whole show.
In addition, Gary was plagued by a drum microphone that kept falling down
onto the toms.  He would replace it viciously with one hand, while playing,
only to have it fall again 30 second later.  A roadie came on after the
first tune and taped it down.

	The second set was MUCH better.  Just like last year, "Devil Take
the Hindmost" was the killer tune of the night.  The keyboard, guitar, and
drum solos were better than spectacular... really mind blowing!!  Allan was
in good humor and rolled his eyes more than once at various audience
comments.  He still looks uncomfortable onstage.

	After the show, I met Allan and Gary briefly.  I didn't really know
what to say except that they were terrific.  (How original.)  The guy next
to me pulled out a cassette liner of "IOU" and asked Gary to autograph it.
Gary took one look at it and said, "My god, that ancient thing?  That's not
old... it's EXTINCT!"  At which point I whipped out my "IOU" CD booklet,
which I'd brought along for autographs, and said "Oh yeah?" :-)

	I brought along three AH "virgins", and two of them left the show as
new fans.  The third guy hadn't expected this kind of music and was confused
by 4 virtuosos soloing at the same time -- he didn't know what to follow.
He did like the more straightforward music like "Hindmost" though.

	OK... now come the complaints...

(1)	I found the entire first set to be "formless."  The songs all sounded
	similar, with little or no timbral nor tempo variation.  Even the
	slower songs would eventually lapse into fast solos.  There would be
	a brief introduction of the theme, then Steve Hunt would solo, then
	Allan would solo, then the song would end.

	To make matters worse, they played a lot of material from the new
	album, and no doubt took a lot of liberties with the music (extra
	soloing, variations, etc.), meaning that the music was doubly
	unfamiliar.  They hardly announced any song titles either.

	In short:  I wish the band had decided on a different selection of
	tunes with more variety, and had announced titles of the new tunes.

(2)	OK, let's take a vote.  How many of you think Steve Hunt's keyboard
	solos should be MORE frequent and LONGER than they are now?  Hey...
	stop throwing rocks at me!! 

	Yes, Steve had a solo in virtually every song.  A long solo.  And
	every solo sounded essentially the same.  Yes, he's fast.  Yes,
	he's flashy.  But a dozen solos, all over 5 minutes long, and all
	very similar is enough to turn off the most ardent fan.

	One exception:  his solo during "Devil Take the Hindmost" was
	totally brilliant!  Fabulous!!!!  One of the best moments of the
	concert.  Allan looked really enthusiastic while Steve was digging
	in.

	In short:  Steve Hunt should take fewer, shorter solos to be
	more effective.

Am I glad I went?  Yes!  Allan is always a pleasure to watch, and I'm
happy to have met him.  Gary's drumming is incredible; I love the way
he swings his stick toward a drum and then purposely doesn't hit it, so
the listener is forced to fill in the missing beats mentally.  What a
unique drumming style he has.  Skuli (bass) was also cool, though I
wish he would step to the front during his solos and be seen.

                                                        Dan

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           Atavachron Digest - The Allan Holdsworth Discussion List
                              Volume 2, Number 25

                        Wednesday September 30th, 1992

                                TODAY'S TOPICS:
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                                album delayed?
                                   *unknown*
                           Husband's sloppy drumming
                                 A cool thang.
                       Keeping up with you guys  (whew!)
                        Reaching For The Uncommon Chord
                            Holdsworth discography

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 19:50:03 -0400
From: barrett@astro.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Subject: album delayed?


	At the Holdsworth concert on 9/23/92, I heard Allan say he
had "just heard" that "Wardenclyff Tower", his new album, will not
be released on October 10 as planned.  It will be a few weeks late.
That's all I know.

                                                        Dan

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 23:25:38 EDT
From: mccabe@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Chris Mccabe)
Subject: *unknown*

	I saw Alan at the 'Bottom Line', in NYC.  Incredible show.  Also,
	I was determined to meet Alan, and, I did!  Twice.  Once before and
	once after the show.  Here is basically how it went:

	

	Me:  	Hi, Alan.  I just want to say I think you are an incredible
	     	guitar player.
	Alan:	Thanx
	Me:	Could I have your autograph?
	Alan:	Sure 
	Me:	I'm a little bit nervous to actually be meeting you...
	Alan: 	Not as nervous as I am...
	Me:       Will you play 'Non Brewed Condiment' tonight,
		or anything else from 'Atavachron'?
	Alan:   Yeah.  I'll play a couple.
	Me:     It must be pretty hard playing that opening riff at the
		beginning of 'Non Brewed Condiment'.
	Alan:   It's a little tricky to do Live, but were gonna try.
	Me:     How about stuff from 'Metal Fatigue'?
	Alan:   Yeah.
	Me:     By the way, I contribute to a kind of fan club for you,
		on the Internet network. Have you heard about it?
	Alan:   Oh yeah...I met Jeff Preston.
	Me:	Yeah, that's him!!
	Alan:   Yeah, that's pretty cool.
	Me:     Well, it was great meeting you, and again, I think you're
		an incredible player.
	Alan:   You may not think that after the show is over.
	Me:	Laugh
	Alan:	That's my drummer, Gary Husband.
	Me:	Hi Gary, nice to meet you.

	After this, I went back to my seat, with Alan's autograph in my
	front pocket.  About 10 minutes after the show, I saw him again
	come out to the bar.  I decided to go back, and ask some intelligent
	questions this time:

	Me:	Excellent show.
	Alan:	Thanx.

	.

	Me: So, is there any chance that Warner Bros. will sell the
	    rights to 'Road Games' to Restless, or is it lost forever?
	Alan: No, it's lost forever.
	Me:   You're such a great guitar player, it's a shame you don't
	      get more attention in the media.  Is there any chance you
	      would do something like play on television, like on a
	      talk show or something.  For example, like what Chad did
	       on the Dennis Miller show.
	Alan:  No way. I would never do anything like that.
	Me:   Why?
	Alan:  Because when the show gets cancelled, they just drop you.
	Me:   It's such a shame, but I don't hear much jazz fusion around
	      here (NYC), even on a good Jazz station like WBGO, so I
	      never hear your music on the radio.
	Alan:  That's probably the way it will always be.
	Me:   Yeah.  Anyway, now I have something to tell the guys on
		the computer network.
	Alan: Yeah, that's really cool.  I hope you guys can continue doing
	      that.

	

	If possible, I plan to see him again, on October 3rd, in
	New Jersey.    What can I tell ya, I'm a dedicated fan!

	Chris

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Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 00:18:50 -0400
From: rardin%cygnus.dnet@auriga
Subject: Husband's sloppy drumming

I heard a rumor tonight that Gary Husband is just returning to playing after
having taken a year off.  Can anybody substantiate this?  If true, this might
explain his somewhat sloppy, on-and-off drumming during the current Holdsworth
tour.

-Lynn

< R. Lynn Rardin (rardin@auriga.rose.brandeis.edu)  >
< Rosenstiel Basic Medical Sciences Research Center >
< Brandeis University, Waltham, MA 02254-9110       >

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Date:   Tue, 29 Sep 1992 02:45:36 -0400
From:   wcsanil@ccs.carleton.ca (Anil Prasad)
Subject: A cool thang.

I've got a Holdsworth interview on tap for early/mid-october, and
would like to see if any of you atavachronites have any good ideas
for questions.

I'd like to ask that they be as creative and imaginitive as possible.
Questions specific to this tour and his new album are especially
wanted. Also, any "dirt" on the band etc., any gossip you've heard
would be interesting.

Please don't ask me to ask allan when he's playing a specific location
or area. Usually the artist doesn't know anyway. Contact Allan's
record company, management or jeff for stuff like this. They're
far more on top of it. Interview time is *ALWAYS* a precious
resource, and is better spent on getting info straight from the
artist that can't be found elsewhere.

Also, please don't send me "obvious" or "basic" questions. I like
hitting artists with questions that knock them sideways, things
they don't expect, new twists etc. I'm sure Allan is quite sick
of being asked "who were your earliest musical influences" or
"what made you decide to become a musician" etc.. you know what
I mean.

So with those caveats in mind, please shoot some cool questions my
way.

Thanks,

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Anil Prasad                | "When I talked to him yesterday, I called
---------------------------| him George. But in public, it's Mr. Vice-
wcsanil@ccs.carleton.ca    | President, because that's who he is."
wcsanil@alfred.carleton.ca |             -- J. Danforth Quayle, 08/27/88
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 92 08:56:56 EDT
From:         PRESTON@morekypr.bitnet
Subject:      Keeping up with you guys  (whew!)


>Date: Tue, 22 Sep 92 10:38:43 BST
>From: a740778@server1.tiuk.ti.com (Jason Julyan              (0004      ))
>Subject: Jeff's hard work

>I just gotta say a big "Thanks!" to Jeff Preston for all the effort he's
>putting in to make Atavachron really mean something more than just a
>discussion group.

  No need to thank me... I'm more than happy to be here.  :)  Thanks
for the support though. There *is* no list without interested people to
pool their experiences and spread the word to others about the list's
existence, though, so again I have to emphasize that Atavachron is only
what *everyone* wants to make of it.

>We've all gotta pull together on this one and make sure any thoughts of
>Allan's of getting a day job are dispelled.  Mind you, if my CD purchases

> [...]

  I'll second that. I've been talking to several people here, trying
to figure out what possible gesture we could make that would convince
him that there are people out here who appreciate what he does, beyond
what the album sales reflect. All I can say is "the little things count"
-- turn people onto the music, if you have a chance. Tell friends about
Allan's shows; call or write friends who live far away and tell them of
upcoming gigs near them. Write to Allan and tell him how much you enjoy
his music; if you don't have the address, ask me! Then write to Restless
and tell them how lucky they are to have Allan, and tell them how much
easier his CDs are to find now that they've got the Enigma releases.
Then write them again to let them know what you think about _Wardenclyffe
Tower_, and *DON'T* mention the LIST! Make them think you bought this
cold off the street... if they get 50 letters like this, it'll completely
blow their minds. Above all else, don't let your friends tape your
Holdsworth albums; tell them he needs the support, and then let them
listen to your collection and help them to pick out ones to BUY first.
These things add up! After all, the man has been making some kind of
living at this for essentially 20 years... if we can help the sales
curve to head in an upward direction, even to a small degree, that will
surely have a positive effect on any decision Allan may make about
staying in the music scene. The rent still has to be paid, folks, and
it sounds like this is really the bottom line, whether Allan likes that
fact or not.

>Date: Thu, 24 Sep 92 10:07:58 -0700
>From: heiser@adobe.com (Rob Heiser)
>Subject: Re: CONCERT: Allan Holdsworth *updated* itinerary [U.S.]

>	Have you heard of Allan coming through Cali anytime in the near future?
>I'd love to see him again, especially if he'll be playing at the Kuumbwa
>Jazz Center in Santa Cruz...Keep the updates coming!

  No California dates so far, Rob. But I just heard from one source
that a college radio station in the San Jose area has been announcing
that Allan will be playing in that area in November. That struck me as
odd, since the current tour is scheduled to end on October 18th, but
with _Wardenclyffe Tower_ due out very soon, they may well take a short
break and head out on the road again. I will *definitely* keep abreast
of this... if Akira Yada will not cooperate, I won't hesitate to call
Allan or Claire to get the touring information, now that I know they
are very receptive to us.

>Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 10:22:43 -0400
>From: barrett@astro.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
>Subject: AH at the Iron Horse 9/23/92

>	After the show, I met Allan and Gary briefly.  I didn't really know
>what to say except that they were terrific.  (How original.)  The guy next
>to me pulled out a cassette liner of "IOU" and asked Gary to autograph it.
>Gary took one look at it and said, "My god, that ancient thing?  That's not
>old... it's EXTINCT!"  At which point I whipped out my "IOU" CD booklet,
>which I'd brought along for autographs, and said "Oh yeah?" :-)

  That'd almost be funny, if not for the fact that they played four tunes
from that album on this tour (or at least on the the two shows I saw).  :)
Nothing from _Secrets_ ... why, oh why?

>	I brought along three AH "virgins", and two of them left the show as
>new fans.  The third guy hadn't expected this kind of music and was confused
>by 4 virtuosos soloing at the same time -- he didn't know what to follow.

  I'd say that's an excellent percentage. If you should ever feel the
need to write to Allan, I'd certainly bring this up, since he seems to
have trouble understanding what people see in his music. Perhaps knowing
that he can make new fans "cold" from one live show might be encouraging.

>	To make matters worse, they played a lot of material from the new
>	album, and no doubt took a lot of liberties with the music (extra
>	soloing, variations, etc.), meaning that the music was doubly
>	unfamiliar.  They hardly announced any song titles either.

  That's always been a complaint (Allan not calling the tunes), and
I included some text with that complaint in the package I gave Allan
in Columbus. Oddly enough, he did announce a couple more tunes the
next night in Dayton, but not all of them... including two of the
three from the new release... ack!  Well, one I knew to be "Zarabeth"
(hey, not only is that another Star Trek reference, but the third one
from the *same episode*...!), since I'd just bought that _Guitar From
The Edge_ compilation. The one which he failed to name was the one
that really blew me away.

>	In short:  I wish the band had decided on a different selection of
>	tunes with more variety, and had announced titles of the new tunes.

  Hey, now's a good time to ask: what would your ideal Holdsworth set
consist of, if you had Allan's ear long enough to suggest one?

>Am I glad I went?  Yes!  Allan is always a pleasure to watch, and I'm
>happy to have met him.  Gary's drumming is incredible; I love the way
>he swings his stick toward a drum and then purposely doesn't hit it, so
>the listener is forced to fill in the missing beats mentally.  What a
>unique drumming style he has.  Skuli (bass) was also cool, though I
>wish he would step to the front during his solos and be seen.

  I'll always get a laugh from this, Dan, as long as I live.  :)  It's
only because I know what you mean, from seeing the Columbus show. But I
wish I'd only had you and Lynn along in Dayton just to show you that
Gary wasn't a total loss on this tour... he was really on top of it
that night (honest!). Still, how can anyone fill Wackerman's shoes?

  Jeff Preston

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Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 16:19:26 +0100
From: Ron Chrisley 
Subject: Reaching For The Uncommon Chord

The good news is that my copy of RftUC arrived!  Thanks to whomever posted the
 Music Dispatch info.

The bad news is that two of the pages are partially blank.

So, I need to contact Music Dispatch.  But I only have an 800 number for them
 (they have no listing with the operator in Winona), and I can't use 800 numbers
 from the UK.  Could someone ring 1 800 637 2852 and ask them for a non-800
 number?  Or better yet, ask them if there is any easy way to get the book
 replaced (without me having to pay more postage costs).

In the meantime, perhaps someone could fax me the two missing pages?

Thanks for the help,

Ron

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 14:59:30 EDT
From: Kingsley Durant Jr 
Subject: Holdsworth discography


The Soft Machine record "Land Of Cockayne" was released in 1981
on EMI (UK).  Allan plays on several cuts but is only featured
on a couple, and only solos on one.  The rest of the band is
worth a listen, however.  Karl Jenkins and John Marshall remain
from the "Bundles" era band, and they are joined by John Taylor
(fender rhodes), Jack Bruce (bass), Alan Parker (rhythm gtr),
and a pair of excellent saxophonists, Allan's old friend Ray
Warleigh, and Dick Morrissey, who once blew some fresh air into
Pink Floyd records. (e.g. Dark Side of the Moon).  It's a bit
heavy-handed at times (there's an orchestra featured on several
cuts) and it's not exactly a Holdsworth date, but it's worth
a listen if you can find it.

Nice review of the Iron Horse show-- I used to go there when I
lived in Ashburnham, MA. (find that on a map!)  I'm planning to
go to the Richmond or Alexandria show next week.  Review may be
forthcoming.
					>>Kingsley Durant<<

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